WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:27.160 The meadow is completely open. We can't see from outside. We don't know where we are on the street. That's why Ashley wore taped sunglasses during the car ride to the Guru's hideout. 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.460 And that she had to give up her passport and her cell phone. 00:00:31.300 --> 00:00:33.579 Ashley tells herself that it's true. 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:46.020 She's here now, at a three-story building, and has to take off her glasses. 00:00:47.060 --> 00:00:52.359 They enter up a spiral staircase. 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:07.959 Ashley has to give up her things. 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:10.959 There are bunk beds to sleep in. 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:18.280 Porn movie on TV. 00:01:19.700 --> 00:01:22.159 Before Ashley left, she only learned that she had been invited. 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:23.019 to meet the guru. 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:25.519 Not what the meeting was supposed to be about. 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:27.420 But now it is clear. 00:01:27.420 --> 00:01:30.519 I just get a very strong attention- 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:32.739 that there was only one reason we were there- 00:01:32.739 --> 00:01:34.219 and that it was to sleep with him. 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.359 You are listening to the Yoga Sect. 00:01:38.900 --> 00:01:41.019 And I just think I'm in a pickle. 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.459 A review series from Caliber. 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:45.480 Wake the fire, wake the fire, wake the fire. 00:01:45.500 --> 00:01:46.959 There are so many secrets. 00:01:47.099 --> 00:01:49.359 I lost control of my own memory. 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:53.700 I choose to do this even though I don't really want to. 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:57.120 Excuse my language, but what am I involved in? 00:01:59.939 --> 00:02:06.400 Reporters are Ida Nordén, Carmen Dixon and me, Marcus Alfvorsson, in collaboration with Danmarks Radio. 00:02:07.459 --> 00:02:09.979 Part Three. The Ritual. 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:26.439 Ashley is relatively new to the movement. I say it's my ego. I say don't ask and don't believe. I'll just follow it. 00:02:32.340 --> 00:02:33.300 Ashley is relatively new to the movement, but she lives and breathes their ideas. 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:37.379 Constantly thinking about having to fight her ego. 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:45.879 Not questioning. Not standing in the way of one's spiritual development. I'm going and just focus on the goal of just like evolving 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:48.479 and becoming a more kind and loving 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:49.879 and spiritually evolved person. 00:02:51.500 --> 00:02:52.340 That is why 00:02:52.340 --> 00:02:54.439 she and many other women travel 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.080 to Paris to meet 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:57.879 Gregorian Bivolaru desert. 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:00.419 Some have been there for months. 00:03:01.060 --> 00:03:02.000 Some have been there for weeks. 00:03:02.780 --> 00:03:03.780 Some have been there for days. 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:19.219 Some of them are the leaders of the house or the women that seem to be running the show. Some women from Romania decide, tell who is coming and going and assign tasks such as cleaning and cooking. 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.159 They call it karma yoga. 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:44.759 But karma yoga can also be a way to punish those who violate any of the many rules that apply. 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:48.060 They are not allowed to lie down during certain hours of the day. 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:49.960 You must not be horizontal. 00:03:54.419 --> 00:03:54.639 Others are not allowed to stand or sit, but must remain in bed. 00:03:56.539 --> 00:03:58.120 When you should be in bed, you are not allowed to be up. 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:10.400 Ashley is assigned to watch videos in preparation for her meeting with the guru. 00:04:12.580 --> 00:04:15.699 Videos of naked women - testifying to their amazing encounters - 00:04:15.699 --> 00:04:16.300 in the desert. 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:23.860 This is far from- 00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:27.240 what Ashley imagined when she started taking yoga classes. 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:52.480 She found the school through a friend from Australia, Siggy, who tells her about the power of teaching, about community. 00:04:54.019 --> 00:04:55.800 Siggy knows nothing about Ashley now traveling to Paris 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:57.120 to meet the guru. 00:04:58.399 --> 00:04:59.779 He himself is on 00:04:59.779 --> 00:05:01.319 Natha's farm in Denmark 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:18.959 which is called Paradise. 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:23.100 Within the movement, he works for free as a carpenter. 00:05:26.100 --> 00:05:26.740 It's volunteer work called karma yoga. 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:30.259 But he also has a life besides Natha. 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:32.680 I have one step in and one step out. 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.060 Even though it comes from a place where I'm quite generous. 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:51.920 But Ziggy has a hard time believing everything the movement teaches, especially the personality cult around Gregorian Bivolaru, or Grieg, as the Guru is also called. 00:05:55.100 --> 00:05:56.160 Once he sleeps over with some others in the movement. 00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:04.879 The room he's going to sleep in is full of pictures of Grieg. I stayed there for a few nights when I was the only one using the room and had to move them downstairs. 00:06:04.980 --> 00:06:15.720 It was just every time he looked. He looked at you. Another day, the altar outside the yoga room is adorned with candles and pictures of the guru. 00:06:23.100 --> 00:06:25.180 The meditation is dedicated to Grig. 00:06:26.579 --> 00:06:29.279 Everyone gets a picture of him to hold in their lap. 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:50.199 But Siggy is mostly thinking about why he has such a hard time accepting the idea of ​​a spiritual leader. He asks the teachers if it would be possible to go and meet him. 00:06:54.339 --> 00:07:02.500 Ziggy doesn't know that people close to him have met the guru, but have sworn to keep quiet about it. 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.120 There are so many secrets. 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:09.360 Some things simply cannot be talked about. 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.800 Initiations, rituals. 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:19.199 You had to answer that you wouldn't tell anyone else. 00:07:20.379 --> 00:07:23.639 Meng has been a part of Natha for several years now. 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:27.639 And the yoga movement makes up almost his entire world. 00:07:28.699 --> 00:07:31.500 But he begins to feel a distance from the others. 00:07:32.740 --> 00:07:37.680 He will soon understand that many around him have been carrying secrets. 00:07:37.779 --> 00:07:45.899 You can be friends for over ten years and still not know certain things. 00:07:45.899 --> 00:07:47.480 what the other has been through. 00:07:48.420 --> 00:07:49.660 It is a 00:07:49.660 --> 00:07:52.199 built-in mechanism 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.319 within the organization 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:56.300 to control people. 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:00.500 So you waltz on the Bible 00:08:00.500 --> 00:08:01.899 about your health and your love? 00:08:02.579 --> 00:08:04.620 In the apartment in Paris 00:08:04.620 --> 00:08:12.779 Ashley is asked to sign a non-disclosure agreement and place her hand on a Bible, swearing on her health and spiritual development. 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:27.339 That she agrees to be punished if she commits this violence? My concerns are based on life and death. 00:08:27.899 --> 00:08:33.200 The women who rule the apartment say that the guru only feels love 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.659 and would never do anything against a woman's will. 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.220 He would never, ever do anything that you didn't want to do. 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:52.759 He only knows about love. There are so few love givers in the world. He is one of the real ones. At the same time, Ashley gets to read some of his texts. 00:08:53.500 --> 00:09:09.600 Where it says what happens to him and she says no, she is stupid and superficial and fluctuating and destined for a life of difficulty and negative karma. 00:09:09.980 --> 00:09:11.539 And her heart will regress. 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:19.279 Such a woman is stupid, superficial, and unstable, and is doomed to a life of suffering and negative karma. 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:23.759 And her soul will go backwards in its development. 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:36.639 And she's going to go crazy and end up in a mental hospital. And all sorts of scary things are going to happen in her development. 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:46.179 Andrea, who was invited to the guru from the school in Sweden, knows, unlike Ashley, from the beginning what is going to happen. 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:48.860 I felt well prepared so I knew exactly 00:09:48.860 --> 00:09:51.399 What I meant. 00:09:51.980 --> 00:09:53.679 The teacher who invited her 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:55.460 accompany her on the journey 00:09:55.460 --> 00:09:57.879 and she guides Andrea. 00:09:58.480 --> 00:09:59.460 We went together. 00:09:59.460 --> 00:10:01.960 and we were basically together 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:02.559 all the time. 00:10:03.379 --> 00:10:08.000 She is now waiting in Gurun's apartment along with several other women. 00:10:09.299 --> 00:10:13.379 During this time, they should be naked or wearing only underwear. 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.000 If you understand the attitude I went with. 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:22.379 To really want to experience it fully as it was. 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:25.779 Without wanting to do anything different. 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:27.080 It has it in a different way. 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:32.580 For me, the whole point of the trip was to experience it exactly as it was. 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:37.080 They wait for several days to be called. 00:10:39.139 --> 00:10:41.860 Then it will finally be Andreas' turn. 00:10:43.019 --> 00:10:45.480 When we started, he explained that 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.720 the different positions 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:49.320 connected to different chakras. 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:52.679 Do you feel the energy here? 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:53.899 Do you feel this? 00:10:54.019 --> 00:10:55.019 Are you experiencing this? 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:56.840 Could you be aware of this? 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:58.860 He really guided me through 00:10:58.860 --> 00:10:59.879 the whole thing. 00:11:00.139 --> 00:11:02.539 She's going to have sex with him for seven 00:11:02.539 --> 00:11:04.600 different positions such as 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:09.559 symbolizes seven different energy centers in the body, chakras. 00:11:09.940 --> 00:11:20.539 It was not a sexual encounter with desire and attraction, but the focus was on the activation of energy in the body and how it moved. 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.179 More than it would be a romantic relationship. 00:11:30.860 --> 00:11:32.620 For me, it was a truly life-changing experience. 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:55.659 I experienced a strong energy activation throughout my body. It truly felt like a magical experience to experience states of consciousness far beyond what I was used to. 00:12:01.220 --> 00:12:01.639 Andrea returns home to Sweden and notices that something has changed. 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:07.460 There were a lot of women around me who had been there. 00:12:10.259 --> 00:12:11.159 Everyone showed up when I got home and 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:12.259 went wild. 00:12:14.100 --> 00:12:14.700 Suddenly 00:12:14.700 --> 00:12:17.740 I had a gigantic 00:12:17.740 --> 00:12:19.860 network of women who had also been 00:12:19.860 --> 00:12:21.960 there and there we 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:23.740 It was perfectly okay for us to talk. 00:12:23.740 --> 00:12:24.600 among themselves. 00:12:27.419 --> 00:12:31.200 Some time later, she is invited to the party again. 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.620 But this time she doesn't want to. 00:12:35.539 --> 00:12:38.100 I felt pretty much done. 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.460 I guess I didn't feel any greater need to go there again. 00:12:42.019 --> 00:12:44.019 But it feels like something she should do. 00:12:44.019 --> 00:12:47.379 to be able to continue to be involved in school. 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.700 And agreed to it because I thought 00:12:51.700 --> 00:12:55.179 Maybe it's not such a good idea to say no. 00:12:57.700 --> 00:13:01.320 I wanted to continue in school. 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:04.320 and I felt like this was part of the package 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:05.080 to be able to develop at school and I felt that this was part of the package. 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:10.940 In order to progress in school, this is something I need to do. 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:18.100 Because if I say no to this, it might affect my future. 00:13:19.299 --> 00:13:19.960 So she goes again. 00:13:29.139 --> 00:13:29.679 I choose to do this even though I don't really want to. That was the general attitude, I guess. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:34.299 Just because I'm afraid of something or have resistance to something doesn't mean I shouldn't do it. 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:39.580 But maybe there's something there for me to pick up. 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:43.480 This time the Guru feels cold and critical. 00:13:46.299 --> 00:13:46.919 And she experiences none of what she did the first time, the guru feels cold and critical. And she experiences none of what she did the first time. 00:13:47.659 --> 00:13:49.919 When I was about to forget myself 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:51.279 and walk out the door like that 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.399 he said to me, you know, 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:55.879 This is the last time you and I will 00:13:55.879 --> 00:13:57.639 See you later. We will never see each other again. 00:13:58.919 --> 00:13:59.799 I believe in a way 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:00.620 was it the beginning 00:14:00.620 --> 00:14:09.379 of the end. 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.879 Then I am really aware that not everyone has had the same luck. 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:16.340 like me. 00:14:24.379 --> 00:14:27.899 Ashley has been in the apartment for several days. 00:14:36.220 --> 00:14:39.919 She talks to two women who are returning from the guru. 00:14:40.860 --> 00:14:48.799 She gets the impression that they tried to say no, but were still persuaded to agree to the sexual ritual. 00:14:52.240 --> 00:15:10.159 A young Swedish woman, Ashley tells us, returns to her apartment shaky, sad, and evasive. Yet she records a video naked in which she talks about her amazing experience. 00:15:11.220 --> 00:15:35.299 Not because it's true, but because she won't be able to say no either. 00:15:36.220 --> 00:15:38.679 But she doesn't know how to escape. 00:15:39.820 --> 00:15:41.600 She doesn't know where she is. 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:45.539 And she doesn't have her phone, wallet or passport. 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.539 And now she learns that she is called to him. 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:01.039 What is happening in Paris is one of the movement's biggest secrets. 00:16:02.419 --> 00:16:06.059 But in Malmö, another young woman is doing something forbidden. 00:16:06.980 --> 00:16:09.860 She starts telling some of her closest friends. 00:16:09.860 --> 00:16:16.759 And then I heard that she was sent without knowing. 00:16:17.299 --> 00:16:27.220 Meng is one of those who listens. Wait a minute, can this be true? Someone who teaches beautiful things, who has written books about beautiful things. 00:16:27.539 --> 00:16:31.240 About what meetings between men and women should be like. 00:16:32.019 --> 00:16:35.100 How can he cross someone's boundary? 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:43.860 The Swedish woman tells how she, just like Ashley, has to wear a blindfold. 00:16:44.379 --> 00:16:46.159 Hand over your passport and mobile phone. 00:16:46.820 --> 00:16:48.000 So all that communication 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:49.899 with the outside completely cut off. 00:16:51.820 --> 00:16:53.799 And that's when she found out 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:55.360 first that she would 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.639 go through a sex initiation. 00:16:58.360 --> 00:16:59.639 She tells him 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:01.620 that she is persuaded to have sex 00:17:01.620 --> 00:17:04.099 with the guru and that afterwards she 00:17:04.099 --> 00:17:08.859 need to sit naked in front of a camera and testify that it was voluntary. 00:17:09.220 --> 00:17:17.240 After all the initiation where she had pushed her limits and cried for several hours. 00:17:18.099 --> 00:17:32.599 After all that, in order to go home and sleep, she needed to be filmed naked in front of a camera and read someone's testament to how good she had it. 00:17:35.319 --> 00:18:01.359 It was so manipulative. I was disgusted by it. 00:18:03.619 --> 00:18:04.299 Ashley says she wants to leave. 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:10.799 Now. But is told that she cannot leave the apartment without the guru's permission. 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.339 They've just put their hands up to say they can't. 00:18:13.460 --> 00:18:15.579 You have to ask. You have to write to him. 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.240 Several hours pass. It becomes night. 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.400 And Ashley starts to feel more and more desperate to get out. 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:27.900 At the same time, she is full of doubts. 00:18:28.900 --> 00:18:32.420 Is it actually her ego that has taken over? 00:18:36.099 --> 00:18:43.579 Finally, she receives the news that she can leave the house. 00:18:44.220 --> 00:18:47.279 Get into a car that drives out through the gates. 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.680 Get dropped off at a cheap hotel. 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:06.559 When the door closes behind her, she breaks down. 00:19:12.140 --> 00:19:36.539 Did she just escape a cult or leave an enlightened spiritual leader? We spoke to a total of seven women who were in Paris to meet the guru. 00:19:37.619 --> 00:19:46.000 Ashley is the only one of the women who has left the apartment without having had sex with him. 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:54.740 Several say they go through a sexual ritual with the guru where each position symbolizes one of the seven chakras. 00:19:56.500 --> 00:20:01.019 Several say they are unable to say no in the situation. 00:20:02.619 --> 00:20:06.220 Even though for some of them it has been several years 00:20:06.220 --> 00:20:08.559 Are they still doing well today? 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:10.700 very bad about what happened. 00:20:14.460 --> 00:20:16.339 During all this time 00:20:16.339 --> 00:20:18.799 Teaching continues as usual. 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:19.700 at the schools 00:20:19.700 --> 00:20:22.819 and the guru is protected as a refugee 00:20:22.819 --> 00:20:34.519 by the Swedish state. 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:41.140 Siggy, Ashley's friend from Australia, knows nothing about this. 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:48.279 He enjoys Natha and from the Danish school he has moved on to Sweden. 00:20:59.299 --> 00:21:00.759 It's early summer in Stockholm and he's sitting on a roof looking out over the rooftops and drinking a non-alcoholic beer when the phone rings. 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:25.039 It's Ashley. Ashley has left Natha, gone home to Australia and is now telling me what she experienced in Paris. Everything I could have known has just stayed behind me. 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.420 I'm in this position. What do I do with this? 00:21:28.940 --> 00:21:32.660 Ashley hears on the other end that Ziggy is upset. 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.339 That he wants to get to the bottom of what's going on at school. 00:21:36.779 --> 00:21:42.799 And he went into a very active state of trying to get to the bottom of it. 00:21:50.980 --> 00:21:51.960 We can change things from within. 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.680 Only the truth about what is happening in Paris will come out. 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:05.079 Ziggy writes an open message in an internal chat group for Natha members. 00:22:09.180 --> 00:22:21.759 About his friend Ashley and several other women being hurt. 00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:25.720 Teachers write that Ziggy is in front of lies. 00:22:28.660 --> 00:22:34.000 The same lies that have followed the school for decades. 00:22:38.980 --> 00:22:44.819 Shortly afterwards, Ziggy learns that he has received a letter from the guru himself. 00:22:48.779 --> 00:22:59.539 A teacher asks him to come to the office to pick them up. The letters state that Ashley's claims are malicious fabrications. 00:22:59.539 --> 00:23:07.440 and that there are documents and audio recordings that she herself signed and recorded that prove that she is lying. 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:32.039 Siggy is offered a bet of 500,000 euros that none of what Ashley is now saying is true. It says that- 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:34.180 Siggy has demonic tendencies. 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:36.460 That his questions- 00:23:36.460 --> 00:23:38.460 resembles a Stalinist- 00:23:38.460 --> 00:23:38.900 trial. 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:41.640 And that he is influenced by it- 00:23:41.640 --> 00:24:01.859 Romanian security service propaganda. 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:07.839 In October 2021, the school will call a general meeting in Malmö. 00:24:11.900 --> 00:24:13.180 After Siggy started talking to more and more people about what happened. 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:16.180 He himself is being ported in the door. 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:19.940 It's starting to get more and more stormy because the criticism is coming more and more openly. 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:22.680 Jörgen is one of the students there. 00:24:27.700 --> 00:24:28.779 Actually, I just came here because I wanted to talk about what had happened to this woman in my class. 00:24:30.140 --> 00:24:34.099 Someone is recording the meeting. 00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:48.119 A teacher says that there are women in Sweden who have gone through the ritual, who can testify that everything is voluntary. They alternate between English and Swedish. 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:02.680 Another teacher says that the ritual may not always be perfect. 00:25:03.539 --> 00:25:06.500 Even if you give your consent at every step 00:25:06.500 --> 00:25:10.240 "So it won't be an easy thing to go through," she says. 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:15.900 It is an intense experience. 00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:24.180 But, she says, she wouldn't be here 00:25:24.180 --> 00:25:27.539 if she had believed there was any abuse. 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:42.500 A male participant says that the women may have ended up in a chaotic state because meeting the guru is such a powerful experience. 00:25:43.980 --> 00:25:47.660 Maybe what they've been through isn't that dangerous. 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.319 Jörgen leaves the meeting in the middle. 00:25:51.920 --> 00:26:02.140 It was just that they made these women and their experiences suspicious and reduced their immense suffering in this in various ways. 00:26:02.140 --> 00:26:06.460 He never plans to come back after what just happened. 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.380 The meeting continues. 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:34.059 One of the speakers is a long-time teacher within the movement who has personally met Bivolaru and who has been taught by one of the movement's most central figures, Mihai Stojan. 00:26:35.420 --> 00:26:47.319 It is the teacher we have chosen to call Ragnar. and rumors of abuse in connection with erotic initiations abound. 00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:49.539 and around erotic initiations. 00:26:49.619 --> 00:26:51.920 Just basic, what is it? 00:26:56.339 --> 00:27:03.019 There are initiations that are not given in classes but are given between lovers. 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:05.819 We have replaced his voice. 00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:25.920 Emma has been a student of Ragnar and at the same time had a sexual relationship with him. 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.599 One day she goes into town. 00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:37.160 It was a summer day. I chose to go to some kind of music event. 00:27:38.259 --> 00:27:42.500 People from a lot of different directions and backgrounds singing together. 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:45.980 Then it was like I woke up. 00:27:51.460 --> 00:27:53.799 That's right, this is how it should feel. 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:56.759 It should be warm. 00:27:57.220 --> 00:27:57.900 Exactly. 00:27:58.900 --> 00:28:08.019 I have allowed myself to be manipulated into something that is not true for me. 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:13.660 But which is claimed to be the truth. 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:21.119 Wait a minute, what the hell is going on? Why am I in this? 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:24.539 Just walk away. 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.039 I don't want to have any contact with this anymore. 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.740 I realized I was done. 00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.900 I need to go somewhere where I can get myself together. 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:45.859 Siggy also leaves the movement and moves home to Australia. 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:53.799 One evening in November 2023, his phone starts beeping incessantly. 00:28:53.799 --> 00:29:12.319 My phone started going crazy. And now to France, the police. There today they arrested a Swedish-Romanian leader of a controversial international yoga sect. 00:29:12.859 --> 00:29:16.720 The police have raided Bivolaru's hideout in Paris. 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:26.799 This 71-year-old man is suspected of kidnapping and rape, among other things. You've heard the third part of the Yoga Sect. 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.079 By Ida Nordén, Carmen Dixon and me, Marcus Alfresson. 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:38.460 Gregorian Bivolaru is still in custody and has not been convicted of any of the crimes he is now accused of in France. 00:29:39.180 --> 00:29:42.599 We have reached out to him through his lawyer who declined to comment. 00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:46.660 Ragnar and Emma are actually called something else. 00:29:48.180 --> 00:29:52.259 Ragnar writes to us that he attended the meeting in Malmö as a private individual. 00:29:52.259 --> 00:29:54.200 and not as a teacher in Natha. 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:58.460 He describes his relationship with Emma as a private one. 00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:00.200 that have nothing to do with school. 00:30:00.819 --> 00:30:04.660 He also writes that he is well aware that both as a teacher and 00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:10.539 and in relationships has shown a lack of consideration, behaved harshly and heartlessly and that he regrets it. 00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:26.119 Natha's schools in Sweden write that their teaching is safe and consent-based, that there is no explicit sexual activity there, and that they have no legal, administrative, or financial connection to Gregorian Bivolaru. 00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:34.299 Both they and Natha Danmark also write, among other things, that they strongly distance themselves from all forms of abuse, abuse of power and manipulation. 00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:40.680 Natha Denmark writes that they did not participate in organizing meetings with Gregorian Bivolaru. 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:47.339 The Swedish Nathal teacher who, according to our information, has invited women from Sweden also denies it. 00:30:48.140 --> 00:30:53.220 Atman Federation, the international body of schools that spread Bivolaru's teachings, 00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:58.500 writes that what happened in France is leading to a long series of attacks against the movement, 00:30:58.500 --> 00:31:05.920 that the charges against Guren are just allegations and that he should be considered innocent until proven otherwise. 00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:09.259 The producer was Johan Sundström. 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.279 The series is a collaboration with Danmarks Radio. 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.880 and reporters Melle Baré, Thomas Brackers 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.579 and producer Annes Gärning. 00:31:17.460 --> 00:31:18.920 Final mix Tobias Sandin.