WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.280 Those were very deep theories. 00:00:06.540 --> 00:00:10.859 It wasn't just a yoga class where you did physical exercises. 00:00:11.900 --> 00:00:13.759 And that inspired me. 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:18.300 They are a chosen group. 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:22.640 Those who step through the gates of a farm in the Danish countryside. 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:29.460 I was looking for deeper theories and deeper knowledge. 00:00:29.820 --> 00:00:36.240 Meng has been part of the Natha yoga movement for a few years when he decides to take the next step. 00:00:37.020 --> 00:00:38.659 He is going to become a tantra teacher. 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:45.259 The Danish farm where the training is held is called Paradiset. 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:52.299 And then the idea was to go on stage and talk a little about yourself. 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:57.920 Who you are and your interests and why you are there, for example. 00:00:58.500 --> 00:01:00.859 The students come from many different countries. 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:05.180 Some from the movement's country of origin, Romania. 00:01:06.540 --> 00:01:08.120 Then it was a bit of a 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:09.959 culture shock for me to see that 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:11.659 some women from Romania 00:01:11.659 --> 00:01:13.719 included in 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:15.879 in striptease 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:16.579 for example. 00:01:19.500 --> 00:01:21.219 For them it was like 00:01:21.219 --> 00:01:22.400 very natural. 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:28.420 So I was maybe a little shocked by that. 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:31.359 But then you gradually warm up. 00:01:32.739 --> 00:01:36.140 But there are things that Meng doesn't yet know. 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.219 About the yoga movement and Reskuru. 00:01:39.219 --> 00:01:43.459 I didn't understand then that women were sent to him. 00:01:46.700 --> 00:01:48.760 You are listening to the Yoga sect. 00:01:48.780 --> 00:01:50.859 Wake the fire, wake the fire, wake the fire, wake the fire. 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:52.879 A review series from Caliber. 00:01:52.900 --> 00:01:55.019 I let my own memory fade. 00:01:55.180 --> 00:01:56.920 Like some kind of Jesus figure. 00:01:56.980 --> 00:01:59.500 How can he cross someone's boundary? 00:01:59.920 --> 00:02:02.840 My concerns are based on life and death. 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:05.319 I'm in a hood. There's no other way to describe it. 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:13.699 Reporters are Ida Nordén, Carmen Dixon and me, Marcus Alfresson, in collaboration with Danmarks Radio. 00:02:15.939 --> 00:02:17.120 Second part. 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:30.979 Holy eroticism. I came across people in my yoga circle who belonged to this organization. 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.219 I got a little curious. 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:39.460 Tova Olsson has been practicing yoga her entire adult life. 00:02:40.620 --> 00:02:44.039 I practice different body positions every day. 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.699 So I meditate every day, chant mantras every day. 00:02:47.259 --> 00:02:52.139 And I also teach yoga and what we might call classical tantra. 00:02:52.379 --> 00:02:55.620 So more philosophy and meditation-based. 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.520 Where you use different meditation techniques and use mantras and such. 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:02.680 So it's a big part of my private life. 00:03:03.060 --> 00:03:05.479 Tova is not just a yoga teacher. 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:09.460 She is also a doctoral student in religious studies. 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:12.580 There are so many different yoga traditions. 00:03:12.659 --> 00:03:15.280 There are many different tantra traditions. 00:03:15.379 --> 00:03:16.819 These are collective terms. 00:03:16.819 --> 00:03:22.819 She is particularly interested in how these concepts from ancient Indian philosophy 00:03:23.379 --> 00:03:26.539 has taken on completely new meanings in our time. 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:32.039 And she begins researching Gregorian Bivolaru's yoga movement. 00:03:32.620 --> 00:03:37.819 Who claims to teach profound, traditional and authentic tantra. 00:03:38.539 --> 00:03:41.599 But which focuses a lot on sex. 00:03:42.500 --> 00:03:45.080 Historically, that's not what tantra has been about. 00:03:47.780 --> 00:03:49.819 And then I started 00:03:49.819 --> 00:03:51.979 sniff around a bit, talk to people 00:03:51.979 --> 00:03:52.340 and 00:03:52.340 --> 00:03:55.259 Where do these ideas come from? 00:03:55.740 --> 00:03:57.960 How do they spread? Where to find 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.219 I them? Where do they originate? 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:02.080 What is this? 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:07.219 for a school? 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:14.979 At the Danish farm Paradiset, training for new tantra teachers is underway. 00:04:19.500 --> 00:04:26.040 The students have gathered in the old barn that has been converted into a yoga room. One of the teachers at the school is to find harmony between men and women. 00:04:27.139 --> 00:04:32.180 I was able to experience that in the first few years. It did me good. 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:36.620 Meng from Malmö has had a bumpy journey here. 00:04:37.699 --> 00:04:45.699 Having been skeptical of spirituality earlier in life, he has found a home in the school's teachings and community. 00:04:46.339 --> 00:04:48.240 I was a seeker, you could say. 00:04:49.540 --> 00:04:52.699 Dissatisfied with life, with work, with relationships. 00:04:52.980 --> 00:04:56.680 All of this was very closed in my perspective. 00:04:58.620 --> 00:05:01.899 So I experienced that there is a greater meaning to life. 00:05:03.459 --> 00:05:07.959 Within Natha, he not only learns yoga positions and meditation. 00:05:09.139 --> 00:05:11.540 He forms close bonds with people. 00:05:13.540 --> 00:05:17.120 It's almost like he becomes a new version of himself. 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.959 More confident. I had better self-esteem. 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:26.879 I could talk to women without feeling any kind of anxiety. 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:36.100 To be accepted into the tantra teacher training program, Meng and the others have gone through a special admissions process. 00:05:36.980 --> 00:05:46.079 You would send pictures of yourself in your underwear and they would approve. 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:48.920 This is nothing new for quantity. 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:52.079 Even back home in Malmö, students have been encouraged to 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:54.699 to send pictures to the movement's leaders 00:05:54.699 --> 00:05:56.160 Gregorian Bivolaru. 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:57.680 You could ask him. 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.939 for advice on different things, about relationships. 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:04.620 And then the idea was to 00:06:04.620 --> 00:06:06.240 he needed to read 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:08.579 one's aura. 00:06:10.660 --> 00:06:12.040 And every time you would 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:13.860 ask for advice then 00:06:13.860 --> 00:06:15.060 should one 00:06:15.060 --> 00:06:17.800 send him pictures. 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:19.980 For men it was like 00:06:19.980 --> 00:06:22.339 that one stood 00:06:22.339 --> 00:06:23.000 in underwear. 00:06:24.300 --> 00:06:27.240 And for women, it's like bikini clothes. 00:06:30.620 --> 00:06:33.740 I'm like everyone else did it so I didn't think much about it. 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:40.600 Some of the students receive letters from Grieg 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:43.439 with good advice and answers to their questions. 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:49.500 To some women, something much greater comes instead. 00:06:50.660 --> 00:06:53.660 An invitation from the spiritual leader. 00:06:54.819 --> 00:06:56.839 I went and just waited for the invitation. 00:06:57.220 --> 00:06:59.579 Because I knew it would come at some point. 00:07:00.500 --> 00:07:04.620 Andrea is a student at the school in Malmö at the same time as Mäng. 00:07:04.620 --> 00:07:05.139 I felt almost euphoric that I had found the right one. Andrea is a student at the school in Malmö at the same time as Meng. 00:07:17.620 --> 00:07:23.959 I felt almost euphoric that I had found the right esoteric part, the development, the self-development and the spiritual development which was fantastic. And then to end up with people who had the same aspiration and ambition as me to really develop. 00:07:24.420 --> 00:07:26.379 It was like winning. 00:07:26.379 --> 00:07:28.240 on the lottery. 00:07:31.420 --> 00:07:33.379 After a short time at school 00:07:33.379 --> 00:07:36.100 she learns that the guru wants to meet her. 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:38.199 One of my teachers 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.139 sat down with me and 00:07:40.139 --> 00:07:42.199 explained that I had 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.199 been invited and 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:44.720 to 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:52.699 Yes, there was an opportunity to go and receive this initiation. 00:07:53.180 --> 00:07:55.319 So I was ready. 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:08.000 It took me a little while to understand all these different levels of the organization. 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:17.160 Religious scholar and yoga teacher Tova Olsson continues her work with the yoga school Natha. 00:08:17.740 --> 00:08:27.680 This is not just a local school but a transnational yoga school. The school is different from other yoga movements 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:33.059 with theoretical lessons and practical exercises according to a fixed curriculum 00:08:33.059 --> 00:08:35.559 which advances year by year. 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:40.860 Here is a yoga and tantra school that has existed for a relatively long time 00:08:40.860 --> 00:08:42.620 compared to many other schools 00:08:42.620 --> 00:08:46.799 and has a relatively fixed organization. 00:08:48.259 --> 00:09:01.000 Here there is a clear main teacher, a guru, Gregorian Bibolaro, and then there are teachers under him who have been his students for a relatively long time. 00:09:02.179 --> 00:09:08.980 She gains access to some of the yoga school's teaching materials and is shocked by what she sees. 00:09:08.980 --> 00:09:18.860 The way the women are portrayed in this, these are pictures that are taken straight from pornographic magazines from the 80s. 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:27.019 Yoga exercises, philosophy, moral precepts and naked women. 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:33.299 In challenging positions, perhaps lying on a bed or covered in oil. 00:09:35.019 --> 00:09:50.139 As you go through the material, there's more and more of this fuss. She reads about how Gregorian Bivolaru starts teaching in Romania. 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:58.220 At the same time as the country is ruled by the brutal communist dictator Ceausescu. 00:09:58.340 --> 00:10:02.600 Who did not look kindly on the teaching of yoga. 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.679 And where yoga looks more it was also banned. 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:13.379 Independence, integrity, and sovereignty of Romania. 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:16.379 So he was absolutely persecuted. 00:10:16.860 --> 00:10:19.419 He was arrested several times 00:10:19.419 --> 00:10:22.120 including possession of pornography 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:25.940 but also for possession of yoga literature. 00:10:27.179 --> 00:10:33.679 But even after the fall of the communist regime, the school attracted the interest of the authorities. 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:40.779 Romania is of the opinion that there are things going on in this organization that should not be going on there. 00:10:44.139 --> 00:10:45.899 2004 beats 00:10:45.899 --> 00:10:47.440 Romanian police to counter 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.480 the yoga movement in Bucharest. 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:53.779 And when this raid happens 00:10:53.779 --> 00:10:55.879 so fly Bivolaru 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:57.220 abroad. 00:10:58.559 --> 00:10:59.679 He flees to Sweden. 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:08.139 The authorities in Romania are requesting Bivolaru's extradition. 00:11:08.820 --> 00:11:12.179 A case that ends up in the Supreme Court. 00:11:12.860 --> 00:11:15.799 He doesn't want to be extradited but they insisted. 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:21.559 One of the justices who will rule on the guru's future is Johan Munk. 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.279 When there are somewhat confusing decisions, we have oral hearings. 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:27.919 We had that in this particular case concerning Bivolari. 00:11:28.580 --> 00:11:33.840 The guru is accused of sexually abusing a 17-year-old yoga student. 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:41.700 The evidence consists of the girl's diary entries and intercepted conversations between her and the Guru. 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.059 She herself denies that the guru had sex with her. 00:11:46.980 --> 00:11:49.340 And she is in place in the Supreme Court 00:11:49.340 --> 00:11:51.659 to testify in his favor. 00:11:52.340 --> 00:11:55.659 She was his witness and firmly denied 00:11:55.659 --> 00:11:57.379 and says it's only on the edge. 00:11:58.860 --> 00:12:02.620 Another person present in the courtroom is Karsten. 00:12:02.620 --> 00:12:07.940 who at this time was part of the movement's inner circle in Denmark. 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:12.580 We know full well that she has an affair with him. I know that for sure. 00:12:12.980 --> 00:12:19.259 According to him, it was common knowledge within the movement that the girl and the guru were in a relationship. 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:23.620 And it is also in the context that the finest thing one can do here on earth is to have a relationship with war. 00:12:23.620 --> 00:12:29.659 At this time, it is completely unthinkable for Karsten that the girl would be harmed by the relationship. 00:12:30.299 --> 00:12:34.620 Because the most beautiful thing one can have is a relationship with the guru. 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:36.080 She kind of fell victim. 00:12:38.419 --> 00:12:42.759 Romanian authorities also accuse Bivolaru of human trafficking. 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.860 That he set up a system to punish people 00:12:46.860 --> 00:12:48.820 through unpaid work. 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.399 There are also reports of members being exploited for prostitution. 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.320 And that Bivolaru in his yoga classes 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:03.019 advocated that girls perform sexual acts with him 00:13:03.019 --> 00:13:05.519 to achieve spiritual liberation. 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:15.679 Here, Bivolaru's defenders call in a priest who is called Sweden's foremost cult expert in the Swedish media. 00:13:16.659 --> 00:13:27.360 His name is Carl-Erik Nylund and he is writing a report on the yoga movement in which he states that it is not a manipulative sect. 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:34.320 His statement was that Pivolaro was a well-respected yoga teacher. 00:13:35.340 --> 00:13:39.580 He questioned the allegations against Pivolaro a lot. 00:13:40.179 --> 00:13:45.480 This report will be weighed in the Supreme Court's conclusion. 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:51.240 That Gregorian Pivolaro is at risk of persecution in Romania. 00:13:52.179 --> 00:13:58.100 The end of our assessment was that we did not consider that we could overturn the detention decisions. 00:13:58.100 --> 00:14:03.899 but that we refused extradition because there was a risk that he would be persecuted 00:14:03.899 --> 00:14:07.759 because of some kind of establishment for religious reasons. 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:12.639 The report is therefore based on interviews. 00:14:13.860 --> 00:14:19.580 It was the yoga movement itself that produced lists of possible interviewees. 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.899 The report contains no criticism of Natha. 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:47.840 I mean, I can remember a story with him, Carl Egnilon. The report doesn't contain any criticism of Natha. One of those who are going to be interviewed calls Karsten to ask for advice. I just said, you should just say it's piss-poor. No, no, fine. I'll just check. 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:51.720 Hello and welcome to the Answering Machine. 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:57.000 My name is Carl-Erik Nylund, calling from Stockholm. 00:14:58.159 --> 00:14:58.980 I have received your letter. 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:07.960 Carl-Erik Nylund does not want to be interviewed about this today. I stopped doing sectology a long time ago. 00:15:08.539 --> 00:15:10.919 Sorry. Thank you. Hello. 00:15:15.019 --> 00:15:19.059 But the movement still uses his report today. 00:15:19.059 --> 00:15:21.240 to convey its message. 00:15:22.179 --> 00:15:26.980 We are not a sect. 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:32.320 This is Bivolaru receiving refugee status in Sweden. 00:15:35.379 --> 00:15:35.480 Of course, that helps the organization immensely. 00:15:40.220 --> 00:15:46.799 And it's something that they keep coming back to in their narrative: that Bivolaru is a vulnerable, persecuted person who is in principle a saint. 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:54.799 And that all new accusations that come against Bivolaru, they come from the same basis. 00:15:55.580 --> 00:16:07.960 Which is this fundamental hatred of yoga and the values ​​he stands for. Several years later, Bivolaru is sentenced in his absence 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:11.360 against his denial in Romanian court 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.940 for sexual exploitation of the underage girl 00:16:14.940 --> 00:16:19.759 who, in adulthood, continues to deny that the guru exploited her. 00:16:20.539 --> 00:16:24.659 The others told her that the guru has become political 00:16:24.659 --> 00:16:30.559 or religious persecution and not everything in the media is quite true and you shouldn't trust the media either. 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:36.159 Somewhere along the line, it was decided that people shouldn't read so much into the media. 00:16:37.580 --> 00:16:46.019 Tantra teacher training continues at Paradiset Farm. Long lectures are interspersed with exercises. 00:16:46.379 --> 00:16:48.000 One of the things that 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:49.700 the promoted ones are that 00:16:49.700 --> 00:16:51.620 you wouldn't feel ashamed 00:16:51.620 --> 00:16:52.320 and all this. 00:16:53.500 --> 00:16:55.679 Nudity is part of it. 00:16:56.179 --> 00:16:57.539 Especially if you want to become a teacher. 00:16:57.960 --> 00:16:58.580 Tantra teacher. 00:16:59.860 --> 00:17:01.659 So that there will be some 00:17:01.659 --> 00:17:02.220 of one's 00:17:02.220 --> 00:17:05.279 test in some way. 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:07.880 That you can surrender to it. 00:17:09.299 --> 00:17:14.220 Meng is open to the fact that this is a place where boundaries should be tested. 00:17:14.220 --> 00:17:20.220 Nudity can symbolize purity and vulnerability. 00:17:21.099 --> 00:17:28.400 The students will go through an exercise, a kind of ritual, and let their clothes fall to the floor. 00:17:28.700 --> 00:17:30.480 It was rough printing too. 00:17:34.299 --> 00:17:39.279 What made me uncomfortable was perhaps the fact that there was a camera in the room. 00:17:43.140 --> 00:17:48.079 He assumes that there is a good reason why they are being filmed. 00:17:48.819 --> 00:17:52.819 That the course leaders should be able to assess how well they have done the exercise. 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:59.019 Later comes an unpleasant feeling that won't let go. 00:17:59.019 --> 00:18:08.160 All this nudity, maybe there's an ulterior motive there. 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:12.599 There were nice things there and there were a lot of great experiences. 00:18:17.019 --> 00:18:22.059 But overall, it was also very degrading and destructive. At the school by the sea, Emma starts to feel worse and worse in her body. 00:18:22.740 --> 00:18:26.000 And she sees that others are also feeling bad. 00:18:26.579 --> 00:18:27.940 Young searching people 00:18:27.940 --> 00:18:30.119 like me 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.099 type. Like this 00:18:32.099 --> 00:18:33.200 want 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:36.319 explore stillness 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:37.920 want to try to understand 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.019 how one's own mind works 00:18:40.019 --> 00:18:41.940 and that it comes often 00:18:41.940 --> 00:18:43.700 from such beautiful places 00:18:43.700 --> 00:18:48.000 and then you end up in a context where you also get broken down. 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.279 Because everyone who was there was broken down in one way or another. 00:18:55.680 --> 00:19:06.160 Even on some kind of intimate level, there were things that had to be done in a certain way in order to earn something higher. 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:13.980 She has a sexual relationship with the much older teacher, Ragnar. 00:19:14.660 --> 00:19:17.480 It was still a teacher-student relationship. 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:47.180 So he went into it a lot and thought with his experience he could understand where I was and tell me how I felt about things or where I was going and the idea is that a man should not ejaculate during intercourse. 00:19:47.180 --> 00:19:50.779 and a woman should not have an explosive orgasm. 00:19:51.779 --> 00:19:54.880 Instead, the energy from the sexual fluids should 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:59.299 be retained in the body and transformed into creative energy. 00:19:59.700 --> 00:20:03.220 In an intimate way, he can justify things by saying 00:20:03.220 --> 00:20:11.900 then we can reach God because it is tantra and if you have sex for a long time you can achieve this high state. 00:20:13.259 --> 00:20:20.380 Don't give a damn about how it feels because this is a spiritual experience more than a physical one. 00:20:24.380 --> 00:20:29.500 There are some things that I have done that have been after a lot of nagging. 00:20:30.819 --> 00:20:33.819 And in that, I just feel, why did I agree to it? 00:20:36.579 --> 00:20:42.160 I don't like to say that I've been manipulated or that I've been gaslighted. 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:46.019 But I have allowed myself to 00:20:46.019 --> 00:20:47.960 become it. 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:49.339 In some way. 00:20:49.819 --> 00:20:50.400 It feels like. 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.619 I have been open to 00:20:53.619 --> 00:20:56.180 become deep 00:20:56.180 --> 00:20:57.759 questioned and 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:00.099 told what I am and am not. 00:21:00.099 --> 00:21:01.680 What I feel and what I don't feel. 00:21:02.059 --> 00:21:03.359 And thought it was reasonable. 00:21:08.140 --> 00:21:09.420 I have felt myself. 00:21:09.420 --> 00:21:11.940 periodically extreme 00:21:11.940 --> 00:21:13.839 disgusted with myself 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:15.920 and that I end up in it. 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.160 We have spoken to more women 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.000 who were students of Ragnar 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:26.279 who also had sexual relations with him. 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:34.619 Ragnar writes to us that he has shown a lack of consideration and behaved harshly and heartlessly, which he regrets. 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:41.460 He states that these have been completely private relationships that have nothing to do with the school. 00:21:42.660 --> 00:21:46.599 The women instead talk about a teacher-student relationship- 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:49.460 where he also sexually taught them- 00:21:49.460 --> 00:21:50.660 and that they get hurt. 00:21:51.140 --> 00:21:56.539 It so happened that some women came to me- 00:21:56.539 --> 00:21:59.019 to tell about their experiences. 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.579 And the more I heard, the more I felt- 00:22:03.579 --> 00:22:06.259 that this is something I can't really let go of. 00:22:07.819 --> 00:22:11.400 Religious researcher Tova Olsson is starting to see a pattern. 00:22:12.180 --> 00:22:17.839 That they always promise that it will come, just around the corner there will be a new secret technology. 00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:25.180 That you can only access this little now because you're probably not ready for more. 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:31.980 And you have to reach a certain type of spiritual maturity in order for you to gain access to the next step. 00:22:42.420 --> 00:22:42.539 It is also, of course, a very clever way to gradually invite people to exceed their limits. 00:22:51.940 --> 00:22:55.640 So agree to different types of things that they probably wouldn't have agreed to if they had seen this material or received that information from day one. 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:02.339 Nathas' spiritual leader Gregorian Bivolaru is suspected of human trafficking. 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:07.460 But his supporters believe he is being innocently persecuted. 00:23:08.099 --> 00:23:10.180 And women within the movement are invited 00:23:10.180 --> 00:23:12.460 to meet him at his hideout 00:23:12.460 --> 00:23:13.259 i Paris. 00:23:13.740 --> 00:23:16.359 I was extremely 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:18.279 curious about the whole thing. 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:20.420 Now it's Andrea's turn. 00:23:20.420 --> 00:23:22.059 to travel from Malmö 00:23:22.059 --> 00:23:23.420 and meet him. 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.200 I had had quite a few dreams. 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:27.720 just before 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:29.099 that I had gone there 00:23:29.099 --> 00:23:31.440 and then met him 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:33.640 my dreams and reality 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:35.119 were two different worlds. 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:40.400 Just like the other women who travel here 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.339 Can she wear a blindfold? 00:23:42.339 --> 00:23:44.240 during the drive to Guruns 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:44.960 hideaway. 00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:47.880 Now she stands in front of the door 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.140 to the apartment where he should be. 00:23:51.660 --> 00:23:53.660 They opened the door. 00:23:53.660 --> 00:23:56.279 was a tiny corridor 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.480 crammed with stuff 00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:00.259 books and 00:24:00.259 --> 00:24:02.200 gifts and presents and food 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:04.519 and so 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:06.839 the other door opened and then he came and got food and then the other door opened 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:09.160 and then he came and met us. 00:24:11.980 --> 00:24:15.019 He welcomes her in a bathrobe 00:24:15.019 --> 00:24:18.059 with open arms and a big smile. 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:22.259 I would have painted him as some kind of Jesus figure. 00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:25.519 and I thought I would feel a lot 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:26.759 when I met him. 00:24:27.099 --> 00:24:28.460 Feel somehow 00:24:28.460 --> 00:24:31.640 something special 00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:33.940 or any force or any power. 00:24:37.500 --> 00:24:40.140 I was a little surprised. 00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:40.480 over 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:51.079 he was wearing a bathrobe and I wasn't sure when he had showered or gotten a haircut or cut his nails. 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:55.420 But she is determined. 00:24:55.420 --> 00:25:00.640 I really just want to give myself to this without judgment. 00:25:00.740 --> 00:25:04.299 Without my ego stepping in and judging the situation. 00:25:05.019 --> 00:25:07.940 I chose to put it aside for a bit. 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:19.299 You've heard the second part of the Yoga Sect 00:25:19.299 --> 00:25:23.720 by Ida Nordén, Carmen Dixon and me, Marcus Alfredsson. 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.420 Emma and Ragnar are actually called something else. 00:25:29.539 --> 00:25:35.539 We have contacted Gregorian Bivolaru through his lawyer who declines to comment on our information. 00:25:36.779 --> 00:25:51.019 Bivolaru has never been convicted of human trafficking and denies sexually abusing the underage yoga student. She testified in his favor in the Supreme Court and has continued to deny that the guru had sex with her as an adult. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:26:26.039 Natha's schools in Sweden write to us, among other things, that they strongly distance themselves from all forms of abuse, abuse of power and manipulation. Thank you very much. You are free to come and end your participation. Producer was Johan Sundström. 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.180 The series is a collaboration with Danmarks Radio. 00:26:29.180 --> 00:26:34.160 and reporters Melle Barré, Thomas Brackars and producer Annes Gerning. 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:37.160 Final mix Tobias Sandin.